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Jewish Boskone attendees needed! 
25th-Jan-2010 11:49 am
One Person can Make a Difference
Dani and Eytan Kollin will be saying kaddish for their late mother at Boskone... but they need a minyan! They don't really have Boston connections, so Eytan asked if I could help recruit some Jews.

There's two of them, and Adam and I make 4. We need 6 more. Who else will be there and is willing to fill out a minyan?

(Yes, Adam and I are both fairly lapsed, but we've been bar and bat mitzvahed, so we count.)
25th-Jan-2010 05:17 pm (UTC)
Forgive my ignorance, but doesn't a minyan need to be made up of only jewish men?
25th-Jan-2010 05:21 pm (UTC)
Only in Orthodox Judaism. Conservative and Reform allow as how women are people, too. :) I don't know which one they are, but Eytan said "ten Jews, male or female over the age of 13-12", so not Orthodox!

<--- has filled out minyans plenty of times
25th-Jan-2010 05:24 pm (UTC)
hehe ok. I figured it must have been some reform thing. Not being jewish myself, but knowing many who are I tend to pick up alot of partial information about these things.
25th-Jan-2010 08:02 pm (UTC)
Given that you counted yourself in your report of numbers, and therefore made it known that women count as part of the minyan, but as an additional note on people "counting" in minyanim: many Orthodox people will not participate in (or be counted in) a minyan where women are counted.
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26th-Jan-2010 12:16 am (UTC)
Gnomi wouldn't count herself, and I don't know if Mabfan would feel comfortable praying in a co-ed minyan, anyway.
25th-Jan-2010 06:03 pm (UTC)

I am Jewish but do not read Hebrew at all and a major problem pronouncing the words of the Mourner's Kaddish (I winged it when I had to do it for my sister's unveiling).

Will I do?
What time of day will you get together?
25th-Jan-2010 06:53 pm (UTC) - No Hebrew required.
You don't need to say the prayer yourself, you only have to be present to be counted. The only people required to say the prayer are those in mourning.
25th-Jan-2010 07:37 pm (UTC) - Re: No Hebrew required.

Thanks, I thought that the Congregation read some of the lines as well (more than saying "Amein" at the correct places).

I just need to know about what time to know if I am able to help.
26th-Jan-2010 12:16 am (UTC) - Re: No Hebrew required.
Yeah, there is a congregation part, but if you don't do the response part, it's not a big deal. Especially if other folks do know it.
26th-Jan-2010 02:58 am (UTC) - Re: No Hebrew required.


I will be there late Thursday and leave Monday afternoon so I am available for the whole con.
25th-Jan-2010 06:04 pm (UTC)
Do you know mamadeb? IIRC, she & her husband go to Arisia.

I could pass along the word if you'd like - I've got several friends who go to Arisia, they might have a better idea of who's going who's Jewish.
25th-Jan-2010 06:12 pm (UTC)
Just to make sure, this is Boskone we're talking about, happening in February.
25th-Jan-2010 07:03 pm (UTC)
Duh. Well, the overlap in my friends is significant - I know a number that go to both of them. But I can't remember whether mamadeb is Arisia or Boskone.
25th-Jan-2010 07:07 pm (UTC)
That makes sense. :)
26th-Jan-2010 12:17 am (UTC)
Both, I think, but she wouldn't be comfortable counting herself for a minyan.
26th-Jan-2010 12:41 am (UTC)
I'm trying to make no assumption on whether any given person I know would be willing count themselves for a minyan - my thinking was more along the lines of 'who's going, and would they possibly know people who would be willing?'
25th-Jan-2010 06:05 pm (UTC)
I'm not yet sure whether I'll be attending, but if I am, count me in.
25th-Jan-2010 06:50 pm (UTC)
I posted about this in the Boskone thread in the Con group on Ravelry, if nothing else a few of the people there will know who to talk to.
25th-Jan-2010 07:33 pm (UTC)
I won't be going to the con, but I can show up for an hour if need be so they can say kaddish. Friday night, Saturday morning, or both?

Technically, I think Elayna counts. If she's older than 13, she IS a bat mitzvah, even though nobody celebrated it. However, some Conservative Jews follow the custom that the time-bound mitzvot (which means you're supposed to pray every day, and count in a minyan, and say kaddish whether you feel like it or not) apply to all Jewish men*, and to those Jewish women who have formally taken on the obligation. So one woman can count in a minyan while her twin sister would not. And a teen girl with no religious education wouldn't be able to count herself in.

*Yes, it's weird that there are millions of men who think it's important that these religious obligations apply to them, even as they spend most of their lives ignoring them.
26th-Jan-2010 12:31 am (UTC)
The way I'd handle it is, "Elayna counts if Elayna says she counts."
25th-Jan-2010 08:42 pm (UTC)
We'll be there; note that not everyone counts me because of Mom's Reform conversion. Should I post this to the KosherKonspiracy mailing list?

Edited at 2010-01-25 08:43 pm (UTC)
25th-Jan-2010 11:39 pm (UTC)
I was about to suggest posting to KKons. :)
26th-Jan-2010 12:19 am (UTC)
Lis and I should be there, and are both comfortable being counted in co-ed minyanim.
26th-Jan-2010 01:33 am (UTC)
Depends on timing--I'm on four panels--but if I can help I would be glad to. You have my phone number, right?
26th-Jan-2010 04:58 am (UTC)
I am Jewish, have been bat Mitzvah'd, have no problem with a co-ed minyan and will be at Boskone. You can count me in, if I can be useful. (I am not available at all times, but if you let me know when I am needed, I will try to work around that.)

I know some other Jewish fannish people whom I may be able to drag along, if you let me know where and when. I can be contacted at zdenka dot waldner at gmail dot com.
26th-Jan-2010 05:28 am (UTC) - Minyanim
Eytan and I absolutely count women as part of a minyan and we are both honored by the Jew Love that appears to be heading our way in our efforts to say Kaddish for our mom (may her memory be for a blessing). Thank you all.

26th-Jan-2010 11:49 am (UTC) - Re: Minyanim
Boston's an easy place to gather the Jew Love. :)

What time will we need to gather?
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