Scheherazade in Blue Jeans
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LJ Crankiness 
12th-Jun-2003 09:46 am
Hearth
I'm a victim of my own popularity.

LJ stops comparison-matching at 500 friends. So a big chunk of my friends-of list and communities list that *ought* to be bolded, isn't. And won't be.

And when you click on "view friends", instead of a list of friends, it gives me the directory thingie with the pictures of y'all. Which is cute, but makes it impossible to use any friends/friends-of comparison technique.

Why do they have to make LJ so difficult as you get more friends? It seems like the more you use LJ, the more they punish you for it.
Comments 
12th-Jun-2003 06:51 am (UTC)
There must be a client that handles this.
12th-Jun-2003 06:53 am (UTC)
Oh, I can use iJournal. At home. Not here. And the bolding thing bugs me.
12th-Jun-2003 07:12 am (UTC)
Seems like they learned a few lessons from MMORPGs about how to treat high-end users.
12th-Jun-2003 07:13 am (UTC)
MMORPGs? Wossat?
12th-Jun-2003 07:24 am (UTC)
Massively Multiplayer Online Role Playing Game, like Everquest or Ultima Online or Dark Age of Camelot. As anyone who's played one of those games can attest to, the people who play for the longest amount of time and get to the higher levels of the game find that they get shat upon much more frequently than the newer players. It's why a lot of them start up multiple characters, only log in once a week, etc.
12th-Jun-2003 07:41 am (UTC)
Why do they do that? *pout*
12th-Jun-2003 07:24 am (UTC)
Massively Multiplayer Online Role Playing Games.

Everquest. Neverwinter Nights. etc. MUSH/MUD/MOO with ubergraphics.

That tell you enough?
12th-Jun-2003 07:14 am (UTC)
It doesn't work for people with over 500 friends. Because the friends list is no longer accessible. Try running my name. :)
12th-Jun-2003 07:19 am (UTC) - Re:
OH!!

I thought you mean that on your LJ bio page that wasn't working anymore, so silly me, I thought this would be a way around that. Darn. Sorry.
12th-Jun-2003 07:30 am (UTC)
Have you thought about asking a couple other people with a bajillion friends how they do it? One of them might have a workaround.
12th-Jun-2003 07:37 am (UTC)
They need a community, hee!
12th-Jun-2003 07:43 am (UTC)
Well, let's see..."The Cool Kids" is taken, as is "Popular People":)...how 'bout "Heathers"? Or The Table All the Kids Wanna Sit At?
12th-Jun-2003 07:47 am (UTC)
*wails* I'm not a Heather!
12th-Jun-2003 07:49 am (UTC)
You should join popularpeople. Seriously, you should. Go do it. Now.
12th-Jun-2003 07:52 am (UTC)
Ew, no!

(side note: clicked a few members randomly... only a few of them are read by more than 50 people. Popular? I think not.)

(unless you want to stage a takeover.)

(still. ew.)
12th-Jun-2003 07:58 am (UTC)
Uh...read the info page very carefully.
12th-Jun-2003 08:01 am (UTC)
Oh. Were you there before? *blink* *blink*
12th-Jun-2003 08:04 am (UTC) - Re:
Well, yeah, but you're not seeing...the big picture.
12th-Jun-2003 08:05 am (UTC)
*blink* *blink*
12th-Jun-2003 08:09 am (UTC)
*Waits patiently for you to figure it out, while preparing spitball made of expensive paper covered in my popular salive*
12th-Jun-2003 08:30 am (UTC)
Read this. For example.
12th-Jun-2003 08:48 am (UTC)
*nods* Figured as much when I saw you there....
12th-Jun-2003 08:49 am (UTC)
The problem is I've fallen in with some of the Snarky Kids...
12th-Jun-2003 07:58 am (UTC)
Hrm does anyone already have "Youve_added_us_Already"
12th-Jun-2003 04:20 pm (UTC)
Uh, are those people for real or is that community just a parody? Are you a plant there? ;)
12th-Jun-2003 08:18 pm (UTC)
Let's just say the moderator's on my friends list.

You'd think the info page alone would give it away, but people join -- and troll -- it in all seriousness.

This proves something, but it's best not to dwell on it;)...
12th-Jun-2003 07:40 am (UTC)
Hrm. I shall look and see who has a bajillion...
12th-Jun-2003 07:42 am (UTC)
Off the top of my head...wolfiegirl, annlarimer, maybe mactavish...I'm sure there are others.
12th-Jun-2003 05:07 pm (UTC)
::Nods::
Same problem here.
Let me know if you find a solution?
12th-Jun-2003 08:48 am (UTC)
Mostly because LJ is an iffy piece of software that was never, in anyone's wildest dreams, intended to support even a tiny fraction of the current number of users. There weren't supposed to be 500 users on the entire network, much less on one person's friends list. The high-end services are a patchwork held together with spit and prayer...kind of like the servers.

They're still talking about to which system to migrate...
12th-Jun-2003 08:54 am (UTC)
I know I'm not remotely the first person to have this problem... I don't know why they haven't bothered to fix it. :(
12th-Jun-2003 09:13 am (UTC) - Re:
Probably has something to do with the need to migrate to a better system so that everything is fixed. Not to mention the whole volunteer service thing...paid accounts barely cover hardward and connection costs.
12th-Jun-2003 01:51 pm (UTC)
Something to do with - so many things are going wrong, they feel they need to work on stuff that affects everyone first.

Seems I remember when the only people with over 50 friends were the crazy people who went out and added several hundred at random - and they were one-time nuisances for the most part.

LJ wasn't planned, in that you bet they didn't start off with "oh, let's build for a million journals!" It grew. And like MMORPG's that were successfull beyond company expectations, it's breaking when trying to do everything everyone wants for everybody.

I don't think it'll ever work perfectly, and by the time everything works well, it won't be anything like what they started with (code-wise, if not user-interface-wise). Hell, you know they thought the growth was out of control and impossible to keep up with when they slapped the invite-code system on. And obviously they're still playing catch-up because they haven't taken it off yet.
12th-Jun-2003 03:09 pm (UTC) - Re:
More or less my point.
12th-Jun-2003 11:20 am (UTC)
??? Where did you hear this at? I've not seen anything about this at all in the dev/maint communities
12th-Jun-2003 11:34 am (UTC) - Re:
The old fashioned way...I've found that most gossip doesn't get posted, which in this case is probably a good thing (at least in the interests of getting something, eventually, accomplished).
12th-Jun-2003 11:38 am (UTC)
Do tell....I'd be interested in hearing what you've heard. If you don't wanna post, email me? crisavec @ livejournal will get to me.
12th-Jun-2003 09:05 am (UTC) - Re: LJ Crankiness
Did you try http://www.livejournal.com/directory.bml?fr_user=shadesong&opt_format=simple&opt_sort=ut&opt_pagesize=200 to see the list of users at least without the pictures?

What version of Perl can you run from your Unix workstation?
12th-Jun-2003 09:17 am (UTC) - Re: LJ Crankiness
Shadesong.com has current perl version, erm.. 5.something, afaik. What do you have in mind?
12th-Jun-2003 09:55 am (UTC) - Re: LJ Crankiness
I need a bit more detail than that.
could you do perl -v and tell me what the version comes up with?
12th-Jun-2003 10:03 am (UTC) - Re: LJ Crankiness
Hmm.
Well, we're in between hosts.

Current host says "This is perl, v5.6.1 built for i386-linux" and host we're about to move to says "This is perl, version 5.005_03 built for i386-freebsd"
12th-Jun-2003 10:04 am (UTC) - Re: LJ Crankiness
I haven't been having webmail problems lately...
12th-Jun-2003 10:59 am (UTC) - Re: LJ Crankiness
will a command line script do or do you need it to a webpage? command line I could do tonight. a web page would take longer...
12th-Jun-2003 09:41 am (UTC) - Re: LJ Crankiness
That still won't let me compare. :(
12th-Jun-2003 09:58 am (UTC) - Re: LJ Crankiness
I'm thinking of writing a Perl client that will use the directory to pull data down and compare it with past entries...
12th-Jun-2003 10:20 am (UTC) - Re: LJ Crankiness
SHADESONG!

They are technobabbeling!

I only speak Technobabble 1.5 :(

Ya'll say that again in english please?
12th-Jun-2003 10:55 am (UTC) - Re: LJ Crankiness
I'm going to try to solve this particular problem of shadesong's...
12th-Jun-2003 05:36 pm (UTC) - Re: LJ Crankiness
Oh, okay. ^_^
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