Scheherazade in Blue Jeans
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This guy 
1st-Nov-2011 08:56 am
Illyana/soulsword
Originally posted by nihilistic_kid at This guy
This guy



likes to cop feels, do the creep, and try to force smooches from women at conventions. When stymied, he resorts to silly threats of black magic.

Now you know.
Comments 
1st-Nov-2011 01:55 pm (UTC)
That blog seems down.
1st-Nov-2011 02:05 pm (UTC)
Thanks. I'm still thinking not the same guy, although it is the same first name, similar behaviour, and the same weird-ass "I am a dark mage" crap. (Other details don't seem to match up and this guy looks younger.)
1st-Nov-2011 02:09 pm (UTC)
Y'all get a lot of dark mages up there? I think we peaked in the 80s and early 90s in that department.
1st-Nov-2011 02:59 pm (UTC)
Well, we ARE Canada, we get your trends a few years behind. (Or a few years ahead in the cases where you steal it from us.)

The guy I'm thinking of was particularly around in the early 2000s. (I left the country and lost track of him and the woman I know he was messing with doesn't keep track of him, understandably.)
1st-Nov-2011 04:54 pm (UTC)
Dark Mages are tragically unstoppable.
1st-Nov-2011 01:16 pm (UTC)
Not good. Does he show up at local Boston-area cons?
1st-Nov-2011 01:31 pm (UTC)
Exactly what I want to know.
1st-Nov-2011 01:42 pm (UTC)
He might or might not, but the Boston con scene already has their own issue (with a guy whose last name makes him sound like a tennis star).
1st-Nov-2011 02:35 pm (UTC)
Christ, I remember him.

I'd heard he'd been punted from Arisia; was I misinformed?

1st-Nov-2011 04:30 pm (UTC)
I know he was banned from one of the previous Arisia hotels, but I think it was the hotel, not the con. He is, I think, banned from Readercon.
1st-Nov-2011 01:24 pm (UTC)
I've read what she wrote, and I don't disagree that non-consensual activity of this nature is unacceptable, but it seems to me that conventions DO have security, and DO have rules, and breaking those rules DO have consequences. I've been to many conventions where security was handled by the Dorsai Irregulars/Klingon Diplomatic Corps, and they wouldn't have tolerated this jerk. Was the convention too cheap to hire DI? Did they think that they could manage without security? Were they too brain-burned by their other duties to work through what should have been done? Or did they just completely forget to have someone running security?
1st-Nov-2011 01:44 pm (UTC)
Security eventually escorted him out of the convention and took his badge, but several congoers reported him before they did anything, despite the con's supposed zero tolerance policy. Apparently one incident wasn't enough "proof" for them or something.

The DI and Klingons would not be present at WFC because this is a professionals only, no-costume con, not a fandom con.

WFC says they're working on revising their P&P in the wake of this.
1st-Nov-2011 01:50 pm (UTC)
Zero tolerance should have meant one mistake and out; the concom broke their own rules, then. It should be taken up within the profession, if this convention isn't "fannish".

DI would still have been a useful group; they work very professionally even if they are a fan organization.
1st-Nov-2011 01:51 pm (UTC)
Agreed to all of your 1st para.
1st-Nov-2011 01:53 pm (UTC)
*Bows*.

As to DI, I haven't been to many MidWest or East conventions in quite some time, so maybe they aren't the group now that they were when I did live there, a quarter-century ago...

1st-Nov-2011 01:55 pm (UTC)
I've never heard of them, so they may just not be a thing on the East Coast.
2nd-Nov-2011 03:59 am (UTC)
I'm pretty sure they used to do security at some of the NYC conventions, but I wasn't a member, so my memory my be suspect.

1st-Nov-2011 03:58 pm (UTC)
Their website (I got curious) says they were doing stuff this year.
2nd-Nov-2011 04:00 am (UTC)
Thank you; I didn't have time to go seek out any information.
1st-Nov-2011 02:29 pm (UTC)
The Klingons have a Diplomatic Corps? I'd have thought they would just skip straight to the ass-whoopin'...
2nd-Nov-2011 04:01 am (UTC)
I think that was part of the point...

1st-Nov-2011 04:58 pm (UTC)
ut it seems to me that conventions DO have security, and DO have rules, and breaking those rules DO have consequences.

You're assuming a lot of things.

That security had a visible presence and/or most con attendees knew how to contact them.

That the security person would have considered this behavior to be sexual harassment and not "boys being boys" or "pics or it didn't happen"

That the security person had training on how to handle this type of situation.

That there is a process for security people to get someone removed from the convention.
1st-Nov-2011 06:36 pm (UTC)
+1
2nd-Nov-2011 03:29 pm (UTC)
One more HUGE thing. Would the person who was attacked feel confident that their complaint would be handled in a sensitive fashion.

See for example, http://goitalonetogether.wordpress.com/2011/06/04/no-more-excuses-part-2-rape-culture-the-police-and-prisons/
4th-Nov-2011 03:54 pm (UTC)
I just wanted to build on that point: I was recently repeatedly harassed as a store I go to a lot by one of its employees. The employee implied he was going to come by my house, asked if I sold panties, etc etc, and alluded to a "mischeivous" past involving violence. I ended up asking my partner to make the complaint for me because I felt it would be physically dangerous for me to be seen complaining, since by referring to me as a bitch, trying to push social boundaries, etc., the guy had ALREADY threatened me and alluded to hurting/violating me. If I were at a con, and someone did something similar, I wouldn't feel safe reporting it because I would feel like the easier way to protect my own safety would be to talk to my friends and play the avoidance game.
2nd-Nov-2011 04:03 am (UTC)
At the last couple of WorldCons that we attended, security was obvious, and in touch with each other by radios, and they patrolled all the room parties with regular sweeps, checking up to make sure that everything was OK. It's been many years since I went to a WFC, but I would expect similar security.
2nd-Nov-2011 03:18 pm (UTC)
WorldCons do seem to have visible security in general.

I've never seen or heard of the Klingon Diplomatic Corps or Dorsai Irregulars. I'm an east coast fan girl (with forays to Wisconsin for Wiscon).

3rd-Nov-2011 02:47 am (UTC)
Have you ever been to a convention where there were folks who were in various security positions, all wearing black berets? That would be them. However, since they aren't hired to do EVERY convention EVERYWHERE in the MidWest or East, you may never have seen them.

3rd-Nov-2011 04:54 pm (UTC)
Sadly I have not. I would have remembered because it sounds amazing.
4th-Nov-2011 03:25 am (UTC)
Truly, they do fine work, and very professionally, considering that they were originally fans offering their time.
7th-Nov-2011 05:53 pm (UTC)
+1,000
1st-Nov-2011 01:45 pm (UTC)
And he creepily looks like a guy who had similar issues here in Montreal. (He's not, though.)

Ugh.
1st-Nov-2011 01:51 pm (UTC)
Are you sure? This guy lives in Montreal.
1st-Nov-2011 01:54 pm (UTC)
I missed that. (only glanced at one of the stories).

Different name, but that doesn't necessarily mean anything...

I'll throw some of my more con-connected friends this pictures, see if they have the same reaction I do.
1st-Nov-2011 02:38 pm (UTC)
What a creepy douchebag! I hope someone punches him in the face for that mess.
1st-Nov-2011 02:59 pm (UTC)
I'm guessing that this is what's running around the Arisia listservs right now.

OY. Which is kind of my final word on the topic.
1st-Nov-2011 04:19 pm (UTC)
Dude looks like he smells like pepperoni and stale dragon's-blood oil.

BPAL Limited Edition Scent: Grabby Fanboy Asswipe.
1st-Nov-2011 04:46 pm (UTC)
BPAL Limited Edition Scent: Grabby Fanboy Asswipe.

You win the Internet today. Would you like it giftwrapped?
1st-Nov-2011 05:07 pm (UTC)
Jaym Gates is working on a new anti-harassment policy for World Fantasy. She is collecting personal stories from people who witnessed or experienced harassment. Contact her at at jaym.gates at gmail (for reporting an incident that you don’t want made public) or pax (dot) valkyrie at gmail if you want it posted.
2nd-Nov-2011 03:47 am (UTC)
*shudder*
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