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Why I, as a writer, hate certain shifts in language 
15th-Feb-2010 10:01 pm
Brain worms
So the hip new thing, apparently, is big scarf/hood combos. Which is fine, I guess, if not my cup of tea.

But they are calling them snoods. And this is crazymaking to me, because that word is already in use, dammit, and not for that.

This is a snood. This, too. See Wikipedia re: provenance and history of the term.

This and this != snoods. They are big stupid tube-hoods. Or something. Not snoods. Because snoods are a different thing, dammit.

But no, someone repurposed the word snood, and now when people see it, they think big stupid tube-hoods.

And so when they read the description of a certain character at a ball (yes, in Shayara, no, not in MEfA) wearing a snood, they're going to think that's awfully informal with her gown. When dammit it is not a big stupid tube-hood it is a delicate bit of netting with sparklies and a velvet bow.

...sometimes I write these scenes just because I covet the wardrobe. What? I'm under five feet tall, I can't do ballgowns. (This one has layers of very soft leather, velvet, and heavy silk, all in shades of dark red. I want.)

Anyway. Snood. It is already a thing. Don't you forget it.

EDIT: This is the goddamn Batman.



You gonna tell him he's wearing a snood?
Comments 
16th-Feb-2010 03:05 am (UTC)
A big tube-hood is called a cowl. Somebody just doesn't know their damn old names for stuff.
16th-Feb-2010 03:06 am (UTC)
They're using cowl for just neck-tubes these days.
16th-Feb-2010 03:05 am (UTC)
At least if they're thinking of the hood thing, they won't be thinking of this, which would be AWFULLY distracting.

http://www.blogiversity.org/blogs/panda_ponderings/snood-child.jpg
16th-Feb-2010 04:39 am (UTC)
My ex used to play that game.
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16th-Feb-2010 03:08 am (UTC)
*points to icon*
16th-Feb-2010 03:08 am (UTC)
Those are cowls, actually. Same as what I was giving you advice on the other night.

I thought you were talking about the scarves that have a hood in the middle and then also wrap around your neck, which I've been hearing called "Harfs", for hat/scarf, which I am encouraging because it is HILARIOUS.
16th-Feb-2010 03:10 am (UTC)
Those are cowls, actually.

But people are calling them snoods. All over. And I am argh.

which I've been hearing called "Harfs", for hat/scarf, which I am encouraging because it is HILARIOUS.

Oh, I'm for that. a) because it doesn't already mean anything, and b) because it is HILARIOUS.

(I need a second skein for the cowl. Fie. Have ordered.)
16th-Feb-2010 03:10 am (UTC)
I think the important thing is that a snood sounds like a fun Dr. Seuss character. Or one of those not-fun ones that is used to keep the main character down from doing fun things.

Stupid snoods.
16th-Feb-2010 03:12 am (UTC)
I can not BELIEVE that you didn't take this opportunity to use the "Stars upon thars" icon for this comment. *shake my head*
16th-Feb-2010 03:16 am (UTC)
I think what Batman has is more a balaclava.
16th-Feb-2010 03:18 am (UTC)
Well, yeah. But DC calls is a cowl.

More perversion of language! But Bats is pretty pervy to start with.
16th-Feb-2010 03:16 am (UTC)
That is probably going to drive me batshit insane in short order, too.

-- 4'11", Fond of Slinky Ballgowns Anyway
16th-Feb-2010 03:19 am (UTC)
Slinky works for us. I'm talkin' foofy skirts. I always wanted Sara's gown from Labyrinth... Big ol' sleeves and all, because hey, I was 12. I imprinted on that dress pretty hard.
16th-Feb-2010 03:17 am (UTC)
LMAO Batman. The Goddamned Batman would never wear a snood.

And I am going to simply ignore that people call those things snoods. They're WRONG.
16th-Feb-2010 03:19 am (UTC)
I think the word they're looking for is "cowl."
16th-Feb-2010 03:19 am (UTC) - I've wanted one for ever
Since I read a book onin the soehi, the warrior monks of pre tokugawa japan, they had them and I go into a deep and odious covet each time I see one

Fortunately, the Wife knits .....
16th-Feb-2010 03:20 am (UTC)
===I suppose I would just have to tell him that he is a hoopy snood, and ask him where his towel was. (yes, I have been thinking of Hitchhikers ever since I heard of the snood, why do you ask?)
16th-Feb-2010 04:42 am (UTC)
It isn't snood in that, though, IIRC?
16th-Feb-2010 03:21 am (UTC)
As a living language, english evolves.

and what batman has on, doesn't fit any of the snood definitions.

Anyway, if it was up to me, 'snood' would be the name of a species in a Dr, Seuss book!
16th-Feb-2010 04:43 am (UTC)
As a living language, english evolves.

And then people yell about it. It's all perfectly natural.
16th-Feb-2010 03:27 am (UTC)
I love the edit with the Batman photo! :)
16th-Feb-2010 03:33 am (UTC)
Forty-two comments, and no one has yet mentioned these Snoods!
16th-Feb-2010 03:36 am (UTC)
See comment #2!
16th-Feb-2010 03:38 am (UTC)
"Holy priceless collection of Etruscan snoods, Batman!"

And yes, that line was actually uttered by Robin in the TV series. FOR REALS.
16th-Feb-2010 03:42 am (UTC)
That line is why I edited Batman in. :) It got brought up on Google Chat.

There has to be a "Holy _____, Batman!" website out there somewhere.

(Also hi!)
16th-Feb-2010 04:00 am (UTC)
As one who owns several snoods, I concur.

Though I kind of want one-a them newfangled cowls now.
16th-Feb-2010 04:10 am (UTC)
The edit wins me.
16th-Feb-2010 04:17 am (UTC)
People are idiots.

Those.. are cowls. Batman has a cowl.

This is a modern snood as well, however:


That's the more religious version - orthodox (jewish). See 'em all the time in Israel, and NYC, and many other places.

Mind: My mother had a cowl 20 years ago. I hadn't seen them for years, but now they're back. And it seems that they may now be acceptable for men to wear? They looked way more comfortable than a scarf to me... something to cover my ears, and be both a hat & a neck thing!
16th-Feb-2010 04:25 am (UTC)
With luck that being a "snood" will be a fad, and short lived.

When I hear/think of a snood, it brings to mind covers of Louisa May Alcott books. I'd think (and be practically certain) anyone reading Shayara would read right along, with the correct meaning, and without getting yanked even the slightest bit from the story.
16th-Feb-2010 04:33 am (UTC)
Ohhhh... I did not know this is a thing. I like this thing.

I hate things being tight upon my head, and so hate winter hats. I bet this would keep my long hair in place/back, and could also easily be tossed backward/off then pulled back on without mussing my hair too awful much.

I have tried the hood/scarf thing where the ends of the hat/hood are just really really long, and I hate those, they lay too close around my ears.

Oh! And I'm surprised you cannot do ballgowns. I can see you needing a custom-made ballgown for proportions, but them not working? Hmm... this surprises me.
16th-Feb-2010 04:43 am (UTC)
FWIW (not much?) my employer's web-scraping for "lexicographically ideal" examples of the word "snood" isn't showing the new use (pronounced 'cowl' in my dialect too):

http://www.wordnik.com/words/snood

so at least the new "snood" uses haven't made it out to heavy-hitter territory.

On the other hand, I wonder if "dog snoods started the trend? since their anatomy is organized differently, perhaps this is how it made the jump?
16th-Feb-2010 04:45 am (UTC)
I work at RenFaires. I know what a snood is. That ain't a snood. Had I to apply a word to it, I'd call it a liripipe. 'Taint a balaclava, 'cause they leave only the eyes exposed. 'Tisn't a cowl, because those cover the eyes and leave lower face exposed.

Aargh! We got *words* for all these things already, and no one wants to learn them! [runs foaming at the mouth into the night, incensed]
16th-Feb-2010 01:21 pm (UTC)
I thought a liripipe was a hat with a ridiculously long tail?
16th-Feb-2010 04:47 am (UTC)
I can never get worked up about these things. Words come, words go. Some are lovely, some are a waste, some are functional. Snood will live or die on its merits. I'd call it a cowl, or an extended cowl.
16th-Feb-2010 08:07 am (UTC)
you could SO do a ballgown. Just not the foofy skirty type. The satiny, drapey ones would look most excellent on you, I think. And I'm a seamstress, so there. Dahlink, we could make it work. but NO CAPE. E has spoken.
16th-Feb-2010 11:12 am (UTC)
I love you.

Looks at my collection of proper snoods.

Yup, I Love You A lot.
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