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Scheherazade in Blue Jeans
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This is a different world. 
24th-Aug-2009 03:45 pm
Knowing is half the battle
According to my father, it is cheaper to own a cow in this neighborhood than to not own a cow.

No, really. There is a logic.

If you have a cow on your property, your land is classified as agricultural rather than residential... and property tax on agricultural is close to zero. Cows are low-upkeep and eat grass. So. You actually save money by owning cows. Big and apparently frequently-exploited loophole.

So if you're driving to my parents' house (known as Stately Ravensnatch Manor by felisdemens & co.) and going WTFCOW every few blocks? Now you know.
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24th-Aug-2009 08:06 pm (UTC)
I'm sure she is.
There are lots of those kinds of loopholes. (I don't know if that is a federal or a state one, though.)
There's one involving trucks as agricultural equipment or some such.
24th-Aug-2009 08:13 pm (UTC)
Dad also said apparently Humvees = big tax rebates for that reason.
24th-Aug-2009 08:24 pm (UTC)
yeah, SUVs were classified as "light trucks" or some such. Thus they were exempt from gas mileage requirements and got a tax subsidy. Something like that. It's been a while since I looked at some of these things.
24th-Aug-2009 08:07 pm (UTC)
I am! It's surreal. The cows cost less to keep than you'd pay in residential property tax.

This is a very strange place.
24th-Aug-2009 08:24 pm (UTC)
I think there's also one involving coconut trees or some such.
24th-Aug-2009 10:46 pm (UTC)
That's true in Massachusetts, as well, in some towns. On my parents' street, there's a house with a few head of cattle, basically for this reason.
24th-Aug-2009 08:36 pm (UTC)
I know this is silly and unrelated, but every time I read "...cos you might be serious" I think "cosine you might be serious." I would hope cosine is serious! Triangles are nifty, and I wouldn't want some sneaky, Loki-esque function tricking me about the angles. :)
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24th-Aug-2009 11:15 pm (UTC)
*loves this*
25th-Aug-2009 12:35 am (UTC)
... whereas I always think the comment is being addressed to me.
24th-Aug-2009 08:08 pm (UTC)
What...chickens won't do it?

A guy tried to do this in Groton,keep some property agricultural by keeping cows on it. Unfortunately he didn't live on the property and was unaware that there is, minimal tho it is, some upkeep required with cows...like watering them. He eventually got busted on animal mistreatment
24th-Aug-2009 08:13 pm (UTC)
Ach - poor cows!

Don't know why they don't keep chickens. These are apparently not even milk cows, which baffles me, because why not go for the fresh milk if you're going to have a cow?

Lots of horses here, too, but they're pricier on the upkeep.
24th-Aug-2009 08:15 pm (UTC)
milking animals require alot of time and need to be milked approx the same time every day X2. If you miss a day or are off schedule the cow starts to dry up really quickly. I'ld have a meat cow grazing, no problem, just need to make sure there is always clean water, but I would never have a milking animal,
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24th-Aug-2009 09:12 pm (UTC)
Goats don't though....once a goat has been in kid it will produce milk pretty much indefinitely! Plus, goats rock, have cute little smiley faces and make brilliant lawnmowers!


24th-Aug-2009 08:19 pm (UTC)

Dad says chickens are too much trouble. "You've got to have a place to put them."

"My friends have some, and they're apparently really easy. And less expensive than cows. And then you have fresh eggs."

"These are doctors. They don't care about that stuff. They don't want to take care of an animal or collect eggs or anything; they're just going to spend a few hundred dollars on a cow and not have to do anything."

*helpless handwaving*

24th-Aug-2009 09:53 pm (UTC)
My husband, who grew up raising both cows and chickens, just had his brain stop when I read this to him.
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24th-Aug-2009 08:14 pm (UTC)
24th-Aug-2009 10:08 pm (UTC)
also they look like an oreo cookie.
24th-Aug-2009 10:48 pm (UTC)
They wouldn't do well in Florida heat.
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24th-Aug-2009 11:16 pm (UTC)
North Carolina is not cold, by any stretch of the imagination -- but Florida is hotter and muggier.
24th-Aug-2009 08:14 pm (UTC)
How about sheep? Do sheep count? Because then I could have a steady supply of wool!
24th-Aug-2009 08:21 pm (UTC)
Sheep and goats count, but are far less common than cows. Dad points out that people too lazy to collect eggs from chickens (see my comment above) are not going to shear a sheep.
24th-Aug-2009 09:26 pm (UTC)
How about a llama??? People are lazy, but CUTE LLAMAS!!! And everyone knows that LLAMAS GO MOO!
26th-Aug-2009 01:04 am (UTC)
Llamas spit gastric acid when irritated.
26th-Aug-2009 11:46 am (UTC)
But then they can serve as 'guard llamas'! (Just think of it- thief tries to sneak in yard, llama spits in his face. 'Um, maybe I should rob that house over their with the calm looking cows instead. Yeah.')

I mean- if people are going to be crazy enough to get 'tax write-off cows' then they can get 'tax write-off guard llamas', no?
26th-Aug-2009 06:04 pm (UTC)
Yes, I suppose that's true, and camelids *are* kinda cute when they're not mad at you.
26th-Aug-2009 01:04 am (UTC)
Llamas spit gastric juices when irritated.
24th-Aug-2009 08:19 pm (UTC)
I want a cow.
25th-Aug-2009 12:03 am (UTC)
Me, too! We should start a revo-moo-tion!
24th-Aug-2009 08:31 pm (UTC)
I think this is pretty cool. It would become awesome if the animals were actually used for productive purposes. After all, I am in favor of paying taxes, and therefore try to use loopholes for their intended purpose.

Of course, if I were doing it I would make it awesome and get an animal which I could garner resources from, but I understand why a person would just want the tax break. I mean, people who are not farmers do other work, and probably don't really have the time to add a part-time farmer job to their life.
24th-Aug-2009 10:13 pm (UTC)
Such a broken bit of policy...
24th-Aug-2009 10:40 pm (UTC)
That's really neat. Now if people would do it for, y'know.. more than the money.
24th-Aug-2009 10:49 pm (UTC)
The agriculture classification tax thingy is in Phoenix as well. Which explains the places with mini-donkeys, llamas, sheep, goats and/or emus...
24th-Aug-2009 11:04 pm (UTC)
What about geese? I hear they make great watchdogs, umm, watchbirds? sentinels?

Peacocks work too.
24th-Aug-2009 11:20 pm (UTC)
I remember my first visit to FL, and I was, indeed, going WTFCOW? down Poinciana Blvd. in Kissimee. It seemed incongruous to me that there would be so many bovine residents in the Orlando area.

I'd keep a cow if it didn't mean cleaning up cow patties. Might even get the City off my back about the upkeep of my yard, lol
24th-Aug-2009 11:23 pm (UTC)
Oh, I am looking *forward* to this.
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24th-Aug-2009 11:42 pm (UTC)
Sounds like your town council needs a visit from CLUCK, the Campaign to Legalize Urban Chicken Keeping.
25th-Aug-2009 01:03 am (UTC)
Not just your city council. I was about to ask about the zoning and whether the houses were outside city limits. Just about all cities have similar laws against keeping farm animals within city limits. If you want to be a farmer, the city fathers suggest you live on a farm. And those of us city dwellers who choose not to live near farm animals will stay in the cities. It works out, somehow.
25th-Aug-2009 02:47 am (UTC)
Does it have to be a cow? I want goats. Or alpacas.
25th-Aug-2009 03:38 am (UTC)
*nod* We're looking into the ag exemption here in CO. In order to qualify, you must attempt to make a profit by using your land for a non-equine ruminant (cows, sheep, goats) for three years running. Renting out your land for pasture or making hay on it also counts.

Personally, I'd recommend goats over cows. They're cuter, lighter weight, and their manure is ready to fertilize--as opposed to cows, which need to have their manure age in order not to burn the plants/soil. Sheep are okay, too, but goats can be used for milk, fiber, pack animals, and/or meat, and have a greater weed tolerance than sheep do. They're cuter, and smarter. Unfortunately, they're also a lot better about getting out of pens than sheep are. Fun, but somewhat frustrating.
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